As many readers will know, I’m the writer of UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, which summarizes my in depth analysis on the subject. I just lately stumbled upon a Reddit post referring to the September 1964 Huge Sur UFO Incident, involving a US Air Power photographic staff that inadvertently filmed a domed-disc UFO disrupting the check flight of a dummy nuclear warhead.
In response to former USAF Lieutenant (now Dr.) Bob Jacobs, after the UFO approached and circled the warhead—formally referred to as a Re-entry Automobile or RV—it directed 4 vivid beams of sunshine at it, whereupon the warhead started tumbling, ultimately falling into |
the Pacific Ocean a whole bunch of miles in need of its goal downrange.
On the time, Jacobs headed-up the photographic staff tasked with filming dozens of missile check launches at Vandenberg AFB, California, utilizing a high-powered telescope/digicam system. Situated 100 or so miles northwest of the bottom, on a coastal mountaintop close to the village of Huge Sur, the distant web site permitted the launches to be filmed from a side-view.
In his Reddit submit, “dingleberryjuice” cited my in-depth analysis on the case—as summarized in my ebook’s chapter, “Shot from the Sky”—which absolutely helps the credibility of Dr. Jacobs’ revelations concerning the still-classified incident.
The previous lieutenant says that he screened the movie shortly after it was shot, within the workplace of Main (later Dr.) Florenze Mansmann, the chief photographic analyst at Vandenberg in 1964, and that two mysterious males in civilian fits—who turned out to be CIA officers—have been additionally in attendance.
Jacobs was astonished by what his staff had unknowingly captured on movie. Mansmann then dismissed him, saying, “This by no means occurred,” and sternly warning him to by no means talk about what he had witnessed.
Mansmann is on the document as saying that the CIA officers confiscated the movie instantly afterward, designating it Prime Secret. In response to the retired main, the beautiful footage was then “rushed East on a particular plane”, nearly actually to the CIA’s Nationwide Photographic Interpretation Heart (NPIC), positioned in Washington D.C.
At this level, I’ll point out that, starting in February 2024, former Superior Aerospace Menace Identification Program (AATIP) director Luis Elizondo has repeatedly stated that he had watched the movie in query whereas with AATIP. Importantly, he confirms that it reveals precisely what Dr. Jacobs has claimed ever since he wrote concerning the warhead-shootdown in {a magazine} article in 1985.
Despite this definitive revelation, which dingleberryjuice knew about, he additionally selected to quote in his Reddit submit debunking claims made by the late Kingston George—a member of the photographic staff at Vandenberg—who says that he too considered the movie in 1964, alleging that it didn’t present a UFO pacing the dummy warhead however, quite, decoy warheads accompanying the true RV. These have been meant to check whether or not such decoys may assist shield US nuclear warheads from being shot down by Soviet anti-missile missiles, ought to a conflict ever erupt.
George claims that Jacobs inadvertently mistook the decoys for a UFO.
In his Reddit submit, dingleberryjuice requested anybody having documentation referring to the case to submit it on the chain, to attempt to resolve this key query: Did the Huge Sur filming incident really contain a bona fide UFO, or merely misidentified decoy warheads?
As a substitute of doing that, I’ve chosen to current my contributions to the talk right here, in order to coach a a lot bigger viewers than the handful of people on Reddit who learn and responded to dingleberryjuice’s feedback.
Whereas the entire Air Power and CIA data referring to the Huge Sur Incident stay extremely labeled, I nonetheless possess a number of personal letters, principally from the mid-Eighties, written by Dr. Jacobs and Dr. Mansmann in response to inquiries by varied researchers. Though not official US authorities documentation referring to the incident, they importantly present key, unguarded testimony concerning the case from the 2 ex-Air Power officers who, not like Kingston George, have been straight concerned in it.
As we’ll see, that testimony convincingly discredits George’s declare about having been in a position to watch the movie in query “weeks later”—that’s, weeks after the screening in Mansmann’s workplace, which he didn’t attend—just because it had already left Vandenberg AFB within the custody of the CIA officers. Consequently, George needed to have watched a completely different movie and, subsequently, his idea about decoy warheads being mistaken for a UFO by Jacobs and Mansmann has no benefit. (Reader, after clicking on the above hyperlink, scroll to the final web page of George’s article, the place he says, “Weeks later, my clearance degree was elevated to permit me to see the movies once more and analyze them.”)
(Certainly, whereas George insists that the launch occurred on September 22, 1964, and makes use of the scheduled decoy-related check on that date to make his case, Jacobs says that the movie he noticed in Mansmann’s workplace was really shot on September fifteenth, when no decoys have been deployed in the course of the flight. Considerably, former high-level authorities intelligence analyst David Grusch has just lately revealed that radar information from that launch, found whereas he was working with the UAP Taskforce, confirms the monitoring of a single unknown object—presumably the UFO—flying close to the dummy warhead. Given this, he explicitly endorses Dr. Jacobs’ assertion that the September fifteenth date for the launch is the right one.)
Jacobs’ and Mansmann’s Letters
Really, earlier than I current the previous USAF officers’ responses to researchers within the Eighties, this first letter was written by Florenze Mansmann on November 15, 1995, and despatched to a tv producer, Curt Collier. In it, the retired main unequivocally confirms that Bob Jacobs’ public statements concerning the Huge Sur UFO encounter are “all true as offered”.
The second letter was written by Mansmann to researcher Peter Bons on March 8, 1983, through which he states that the filmed craft that circled the dummy warhead, whereas directing 4 beams of sunshine at it, was assumed by him to be “extraterrestrial”. Referring to particulars that he noticed with a Loup magnifier, when inspecting the footage frame-by-frame, Mansmann describes the UFO as a “basic disc, the middle gave the impression to be a raised bubble”. He additional says, “On the level of beam launch…the article turned like an object required to be ready to fireside from a platform”.
The third letter was written by Mansmann to researcher T. Scott Crain Jr. on Could 6, 1987. In it, he elaborates on the circumstances surrounding the screening in his workplace and speculates that the superb occasions captured on movie have been most likely nonetheless being stored secret due to the US authorities’s so-called “Star Wars” analysis tasks then underway, aimed toward creating directed-energy beam weapons that might destroy Soviet nuclear warheads in flight.
The fourth letter was written by Dr. Bob Jacobs to Dr. Florenze Mansmann on January 14, 1985, through which he discusses the Huge Sur Incident at size, providing his opinion about its which means—it was “a shot throughout the bow … of our nuclear silliness ship”—and passionately arguing that the US authorities shouldn’t hold the incident secret ceaselessly.
The last letter that I’ll current right here, written by Mansmann to researcher Lee Graham on March 10, 1983, confirms that “the unique [35mm film] was rushed East on a particular plane once we launched it [to the CIA officers]”. As soon as once more, this assertion establishes past query that Kingston George couldn’t probably have considered the similar movie at Vandenberg “weeks later” as he claimed, just because it was long-gone from the bottom.
(BTW Within the first letter, Mansmann states that the one copy of the movie—the 16mm model that was screened on a projector in his workplace—was “confiscated by the 2 Authorities Brokers and positioned in a briefcase earlier than they departed”. In different phrases, George additionally couldn’t have considered, weeks later, that replicate of the movie both.)
I additionally possess three extra personal letters on this subject, written to varied people by Jacobs or Mansmann within the Eighties, that I can’t embody on this article. They’re principally redundant by way of what they reveal, relative to those that I’ve offered right here.
In conclusion, whereas Kingston George tried to discredit what he referred to as “Bob Jacobs’ bizarre claims” a few UFO capturing down a dummy nuclear warhead in flight in September 1964, the in depth personal correspondence of Jacobs and Florenze Mansmann convincingly confirms that the incident, nevertheless weird and tough to imagine, did actually happen.